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Karol Kosnik's avatar

This seems very intutitive and natural - for me the question is this: what frameworks, or established hierarchies does this 'take down'..?; there must be beneficiaries to current models that may not survive this view. Great writing!

Alexis Rogers's avatar

Reading this, I kept noticing a resonance that sits slightly to the side of the frame you’re working in, and I wanted to offer it as a companion intuition rather than a critique.

The move you make early on—loosening the grip of the unified observer and pointing instead to parallel channels, to seeing, hearing, feeling, thinking as processes rather than possessions—felt deeply familiar to me, not only through phenomenology or cognitive modeling, but through animist and Indigenous ways of knowing. In many of those traditions, there is no grammatical pressure to bundle experience into a single owner. There is seeing. There is sounding. There is weathering. There is remembering. There is humaning. The insistence on an “I” as the necessary recipient of experience is not universal. It is culturally and historically trained.

What struck me is that your analysis shows how the unity of self emerges downstream—through coordination, action, and especially language—rather than being found upstream as a witness. And yet, in modern discourse, that downstream convenience often gets retroactively treated as an evolutionary inevitability or efficiency gain. It is as if the consolidation into a singular self were the most advanced, or even the most natural, linguistic outcome.

From an animist or Indigenous perspective, that assumption itself begins to look like a kind of epistemic violence.

I fell that treating the self as the necessary or optimal linguistic solution erases other grammars that already knew how to coordinate without collapsing experience into ownership. Grammars that allowed the world to remain active—where rivers do, winds move, ancestors speak, and perception does not require a central spectator to be meaningful.

Seen this way, the “I” is less an evolutionary triumph than a particular solution to particular social pressures: accountability, ownership, command, continuity of obligation. Powerful pressures, but not neutral ones.

What your piece helped clarify for me is that the modern self may not be a discovery at all, but a stabilization artifact. Language doing what it needed to do in order to manage responsibility and coordination at scale. That doesn’t make it wrong. But it does mean we should be careful not to mistake it for the only way experience can be organized or spoken.

In that sense, the verbing you gesture toward—there is seeing, there is thinking—may be a remembering. Or at least a reopening of possibilities that language once held, and that some languages never relinquished.

Thank you for the clarity of the framing. It feels like an important step in loosening assumptions that run much deeper than cognitive science alone.

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